Being over the moon with the whipped leggings, I was excited to order these joggers, expecting something similarly soft and luxurious on my skin but suitable for wearing out of the house. Unfortunately, they didn’t win me over even a little bit. They don’t feel much different then average $20 generic sweatpants. They are not black, not remotely black, not washed black. They are more of a gunmetal grey. I admittedly ordered a size up hoping for a loose fit but these were giant and shapeless. I just couldn’t justify keeping such an expensive pair of less than satisfying sweats. I exchanged them for another pair (my 3rd!) of Whipped leggings and now I’m happy (but still want something to wear around town).